Sunday, May 27, 2007

Sunday morning funnies - expanding Earth theory

Grab yourself a cup of coffee and enjoy some Sunday morning funnies.

I can't decide if this is for real or a parody of someone trying to be serious, or something else. Either way, it is entertaining. Neal Adams, an American comic book artist, has a website and various videos out there talking about the expanding Earth theory. That's right...the spreading of the Atlantic and eastern Pacific indicate that the Earth has to have grown in the last couple hundred million years. What about subduction? This is what Neal says about subduction:

There is no subduction. No plates subduct. Subduction is unscientific and untrue, the ramifications of which are world shaking. And… the Earth grows! (You may have heard this before, so I caution you. This is not your father’s Earth expanding theory.) Earth is growing, not expanding, and therein lies the past-error who's answer lies in physics and not geology.
Very compelling argument against subduction. If you are in the mood for some fun reading, check out Neal's full treatise on why subduction is a stupid theory.

That was the "scientific" part, but wait...there's more. Here, Neal is getting a little nasty:
40 years ago your discipline was in a position to lead all of science into a new age of discovery but you wimped out. You, basically, had no balls.
You could have given a growing Earth theory an open chance for a complete examination, but you closed your doors.
WORSE, you accepted subduction, a theory that has not been seen or proved for all these 40 years, as gospel out of fear.
Why did you do it?
You were bullied into it. But worse again you allowed yourselves to be bullied shame!
Nothing, nothing in the "proofs" of subduction is there that can't easily be explained by another concept within the plate tectonics.
You will be the laughed at generation of geologists who believed in the subduction theory. Just like those who believed the Sun went around the Earth or the Earth was flat and you could fall off the edge. You are the duped generation of geologists.
I never realized some people were so strongly anti-subduction. Anyway, now that subduction is neatly out of the way, Neal gets to his real message. If plates don't subduct but they are created at spreading centers then -- the Earth has to be growing!

Check out Neal's video here explaining the expanding Earth theory. It's several minutes long, but well worth it.

I do like Neal's illustrations and animations...very well done. Perhaps his science page is simply a different outlet to produce his art, I don't know. If anyone out there knows the skinny on this guy, drop a comment....this was one of those things I found on the internet and now I need to get back to work.


Thermochronic said...

Is this related at all to the famous AGU poster Pangea, She No Spin? The fact that this guy has links to the radio show coast to coast live just increases his credibility. This is both hilarious and sad, I hope he is not serious. I suppose we could post responses but it is like arguing with UFOlogists or young earth people.

Thermochronic said...

Words or terms that don't appear in his "why subduction is stupid" page

1. 10Be or Beryllium 10
2. Benioff Zones
3. Blueschist
4. Arc Magmatism
5. Seismic Tomography
6. Crustal Xenoliths

Brian said...

yeah...the Benioff zone was the first one that came to my mind

Thermochronic said...

Of course, as he insinuates, it is probably just because we are lazy and never get off our "arses"

Chuck said...

Historically, you have to remember that sea floor spreading was discovered before subduction. So if you wanna turn the clock back to 1959, the expanding Earth was a daring theory, not a silly one.

Of course, promoting it today is like looking for granite on the moon, or jungles on Venus.

Maybe we need to make supporters of long-debunked science simply dress up in the threads that were trendy in the decade in which their pet theory bit the dust.

royalspin2003 said...

First of all Neal just happens to have been working on a comic strip of his characters who happen to be on an expanding earth.Second he will gladly sell you a 30 min video for $50 smackers.Fourth he "Invents a new form of matter that he calls "Prime Matter"that all scientist are just too stupid to come up with themselves."Its so simple a child can see it" is what he loves to say. Come on Neal get real ..please ?
Ive actually conversed with this man in the vain attempts to see his logic and possibly see where he was coming from.I received sarcasm and insults in return for simply stating a proven theory that the moon came from a collision with a young earth and that it has been moving away from us an inch a year since its collision.

He got quite annoyed with that and started attacking me saying I'm a product of the establishment etc and said that I must be a scientist when in fact I'm communication technician with a interest in physics.

So here is the skinny on Neal Adams that Ive managed to dig up.To start off with theres plenty about him on Wikipedia thats pretty revealing.The big clue I ran across is the fact that as a child he was very interested in science and art.His dad could not afford to send him to college to pursue a science degree so he sent him to art school instead.From there he became a very talented comic book writer and artist with many credits to his name.

Personally I think that in his mind he thinks he is a brilliant scientist- a maverick who needs no degree or scientific discipline when in fact he desperately wanted to be on the inside and now years later is somehow angry with the scientific community.

Its not a matter of he has an idea and really wants to share his idea and is willing to take polite criticism because trust me he wont I know from experience.He truly believes that all science is just plain wrong and constantly pushes his agenda.When someone corners him on his theory with some actual science e.g. equations about prime matter etc he backs off a little and says things like- "Hey guys I'm not a scientist. I'm a generalist. I would have to crack the books which is something I don't have time for."

Well Neal if you don't have time for it and your too busy defending something you have no proof for with non sense science.Wait awhile go to the library and then come back with a convincing case or better yet -Leave science to the people who went to school and worked their asses off to try and find out how and why we are what we are today.I totally respect scientist who will go out on a limb to prove what they believe is true.They have to show proof and it has to stand up to scrutiny which is something Neal Adams is not willing to do.

After dealing with him via emails back and forth Ive come to the conclusion hes delusional and suffers from some illness or that he must be one of the most stubborn men Ive ever had the misfortune of talking to.

Everyone else who's curious by all means entertain yourselves with his yarn.If you believe what he is saying do yourself the favor and investigate the claim before taking it on faith.